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“Private bailiff firms contracted to councils, are defrauding members of the public with no opposition from the Government, Local Authorities or the Police.

Local news papers will not, for whatever reason, report on this serious issue. They are failing in their duty to raise awareness for the many thousands of victims involved.

It seems these crimes will remain covered-up if left to the local press. It therefore must be tackled by members of the public who are prepared to expose our corrupt councils.

It has been publicised in the national press and on TV, that Ross-en-dales Ltd, who Cornwall Council contract its bailiff services to, is a criminal outfit.”

By sfishy Posted: February 17, 2013


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  • takingTbait  |  February 17 2013, 8:35PM

    Ross-end-ales Bailiffs, how to stop them in 1hr From October 1998 bailiffs who call at your door must be certified. This means they must have a certificate from a county court allowing them to act as bailiffs. You can complain to the county court about a certificated bailiff. If Ross-end-ales have not been into your home before to collect this debt, they have no right to come in. They cannot break in. You can choose not to let them in. Don't open the door to Ross-end-ales as they may try to push past you. If they get inside, they may have the right to enter again and may break in to take your goods. Don't leave windows open or doors unlocked – bailiffs can legally get through these. A bailiff cannot break in to take goods they have only seen through a window so if you do not let them in they will not be able to take anything from inside your home. Ross-end-ales may leave you a phone number, and arrange to come round to 'have a chat'. Don't let them in, even if they say it's only to use the toilet or make a phone call. Ross-end-ales will want to get you to sign a walking possession order, which is you effectively giving them permission to walk round your house and start making a list of your possessions. If any Ross-end-ales letters are put through your letterbox for you to sign and send back, don't. You don't have to sign and send anything back to them Ross-end-ales must follow the rules, and behave properly when dealing with you. They should not enter your home illegally or charge you large fees that are not allowed under the rules. They should not take goods that do not belong to you, or that are exempt under the rules. If they do not follow the proper procedures you can complain. Write a letter to the bailiff company and to the council that they are acting for. Make sure you include details of your complaint and make a note of relevant dates and events. Keep a copy of your letter. If you don't hear back from the bailiff company then write again. If the police attend your house due to either yourself or the bailiff phoning them, they are not supposed to get involved in any dispute over the debt. They are simply there to keep the peace and ensure that everyone has their rights respected. Sounds great? Well in practice, most front-line police officers are woefully ignorant of the ins and outs of the various laws and rules surrounding bailiffs. This isn't their fault; these rules and laws are sometimes very arcane and difficult to follow. But this can mean that in practice that a smooth talking bailiff can convince the police to help the bailiff out. This is wrong and you can make a complaint about any police officer who gets caught up like this but it's still something you need to be aware of. Ross-end-ales Bailiffs, how to stop them in 1hrf If you call the police, make sure you speak to them before Ross-end-ales has a chance to, and make it clear to the police that YOU called them, and remind them that they are there only to ensure that there is no breach of the peace and that your rights are respected. If Ross-end-ales calls the police, then you should, again, make it clear to the police that you know your rights and their powers in this situation and that they are only there to ensure there is no breach of the peace. Whatever you do, do not allow the police to let Ross-end-ales into your property or let the police talk you into doing so. I hope this helps to show you that Ross-end-ales do actually employ tactics to achieve their goal,as they simply don't have the powers they would like you to believe they do!

  • Big_Ger  |  February 18 2013, 9:33AM

    "It has been publicised in the national press and on TV, that Ross-en-dales Ltd, who Cornwall Council contract its bailiff services to, is a criminal outfit." No wrong. It was publicised on TV that one man, a subcontractor to ***********, had been using intimidatory tactics. He was fired immediately. When you make inflammatory and easily disproved statements like that, why do you expect people to believe you? Stay out of debt if you do not want the bailiffs calling.

  • Slimslad  |  February 18 2013, 10:14AM

    Bailiffs- the real deal. (C.A.B.) http://tinyurl.com/a8h57jp

  • takingTbait  |  February 18 2013, 10:39AM

    Big_Ger, I have more reason than this to believe the claim..... http://tinyurl.com/95pc4p9 ".....Unlawful and excessive fees are rife. Most people do not understand the fees or how to complain and that is being utterly abused. I do not believe most of these charges could be justified in the courts," he said. Boast's sworn statement to the Sunday Times alleging widespread malpractice reveals a system vulnerable to abuse from the outset. He said initial visits to debtor's homes – for which they are charged £24.50 if they owe council tax – were often carried out in the middle of the night and the door would not actually be knocked so additional charges could be levied...... Other charges, including those for fabricated, or "phantom" visits. "I have sat in a cafe with other bailiffs and they fill in paperwork with charges for second visits to homes which they have not done," Boast said. "When a householder does phone to pay a bill, they are charged the fees which would have been due if they had been pursued for several months...." Boast said that even when the charges were correct, it was sometimes unfair that the debtor was being pursued in the first place. He described how he pursued one debtor for Hounslow council in west London who owed £1 in council tax, but was charged court and bailiff fees of more than £160.....

  • JP_stitch_up  |  February 18 2013, 10:45AM

    Here you are Big G http://tinyurl.com/9kgzy2n

  • how_v_dare_u  |  February 18 2013, 10:49AM

    Do you need any more instances? http://tinyurl.com/8w26gaf

  • time_2_think  |  February 18 2013, 11:17AM

    Don't think the local authorities are innocent in all this either... http://tinyurl.com/5sa9cqt

  • Big_Ger  |  February 18 2013, 11:20AM

    All of which proves that bailiffs are going about their lawful business. That some individual bailiffs have been caught doing things against the guidelines, does not prove the firms who employ them are "criminal outfits." The surest way to put bailiffs out of business is not to sign up for pay-day loans, do not buy on credit, and to pay your bills. I'm surprised Alex Foulkes hasn't had a visit from them.

  • time_2_think  |  February 18 2013, 11:37AM

    Do you think Miss Jones would be labelled the million pound a year bailiff if she had all her employees do everything by the book? Boast trained-up new recruits....

  • Big_Ger  |  February 18 2013, 6:38PM

    Do you think Miss Jones would be labelled the million pound a year bailiff if people didn't sign up for pay-day loans, did not buy on credit, and to paid their bills?

  • takingTbait  |  February 20 2013, 10:56AM

    Oh! I completely forgot that people who sign up for pay-day loans, buy goods on credit and struggle to pay their bills on time are the dregs of society and undeserving of justice when these opportunists pick their pockets. Or, those victimised by oppressive councils losing their right to pay C.T. by instalments and thrown unnecessarily into the hands of profit making companies like miss jones' are considered fair game.

  • how_v_dare_u  |  February 22 2013, 5:41PM

    These bailiff firms are obviously out to make a profit – they are private companies after all. Council Tax enforcement and the schedule of fees, were never devised for a profit to be made. The charges are the statutory fees which a council are lawfully allowed to impose for enforcement, which was originally all done in-house. It is therefore recklessness of councils which contractually oblige their bailiffs to take on additional administration work for free – Attachment of Earnings for example, not to mention the ones demanding a percentage of fees. It hardly needs mentioning the added pressure put on these firms makes them cut corners to turn round a profit. Outsourcing these operations has failed, but nobody seems to be admitting it. Contrary to what councils have you believe, there is a cost to the council. By the same token, the new fee structure devised by the MoJ and helped along with the input of bailiff firms, will be implemented with private enforcement firms (and potential to make profits) in mind. This decision should be reversed immediately and enforcement put back in the hands of local authorities, that is of course if they can't come up with a fairer way of collecting local taxes.

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