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The Rights of Guesthouse Owners

By JohnOfLondon  |  Posted: March 20, 2012

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The question we are voting on, "Should guesthouse owners be allowed to refuse gay couples?" is a special case of what should be a general right. Anyone who runs a business attached to their home should be allowed to refuse anyone whose custom might impact that home, for whatever reason. For instance, if a "gay" couple owning a guesthouse feel that a prospective guest might be "homophobic", they should be allowed to refuse that guest. Indeed, they should have the right to accommodate only "gays", if that is what they wish.

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  • JohnOfLondon  |  April 19 2012, 7:25PM

    Yes, a decent jury would have found in their favour. But, you know, governments have been whittling away at justice for some time. You remember the old ditty: "and shall Trelawney die, Here's twenty thousand Cornishmen will know the reason why"? Had the recently instituted jury majority verdict system been in place, the Seven Bishops would indeed have been found guilty - history tells us that all but one juror was ready to submit to James II and give a guilty verdict, but this juror hung out until all the other jurors came round to delivering the not guilty verdict that history records.

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  • cornishangel  |  April 19 2012, 12:42PM

    I never go on this and I won't again but this story has really upset me and I'm so, so angry( What is this judge?) This couple should be should be respected. When I heard that Mr and Mrs Bull may be forced to shut their business because they were taken to Court over Gay rights. What about their rights as Christians, I don't go to Church but I really do believe in what the Bible tells us. If people listen to what the bible is telling us there wouldn't be this problem or the problems on our streets today. I read that the Bible don't of homosexuals, so what is Leviticus 20:13 ?? If someone is religious and take their beliefs seriously like this lovely couple, the bible clearly tell us it's a sin and why should they have to live with that. They were leading a decent, honest life but the devil stepped in to ruin their lives. My heart goes out to this couple.

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  • JohnOfLondon  |  March 24 2012, 6:55PM

    This discussion seems to have come to an end, but I must deal with at least one of AndyTheRoo's points, otherwise I may rue it. It was there in the Old Testament, but Christ made it clear in the New, that acts of mercy and of necessity are lawful on the sabbath. If people are staying at your home they need to eat. It's clear from the context of Exodus 21:7 that the service into which Andy wants to sell his youngest daughter is one that will lead to her marrying one of the household she's being sold into. In fixing a price one needs to look at the future father-in-law. Maybe he should pay THEM money! And quite a lot of it. Even by New Testament Apocrypha standards the story of the two dragons is pretty obscure, appearing for the first time about 600 years after the birth of Christ. It clearly never belonged to the original manuscript.

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  • JohnOfLondon  |  March 22 2012, 10:34PM

    In the same way that Jews had "the same equality rights as anyone else. Everyone" (was) "equally obligated to the law. There" (were) "no exceptions" - UNDER NAZI GERMANY, WHOSE LAW IT WAS. And that also applied to the Christians and others that helped the Jews and landed up in the same concentration camps for so doing. And the court decisions over which SandyShaw crows are of the same ilk and even more so are those who incite and bring the prosecutions. Do I begin to sound like Stonewall's "Bigot of the Year"? Well, thank you very much, God bless her, and I wish I DID have her skills!

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  • sandyshaw  |  March 22 2012, 4:47PM

    "What about those who are Christians, do they get treated fairly by the powers that be." Of course what evidence have you got for Christians not being treated equally. They have the same equality rights as anyone else. Everyone is equally obligated to the law. There are no exceptions.

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  • JohnOfLondon  |  March 22 2012, 4:04PM

    Actually, people should not be made to surrender their home to ANYTHING that is repugnant to them even if they are using it to make money.

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  • JohnOfLondon  |  March 22 2012, 4:01PM

    Equality doesn't exist. 'Equality' does, unfortunately - for the purposes of forcing you to take part in the murder of the newly born (we're almost there), or in the harming of patients spiritually, psychologically, or even physically, or in giving advice you know to be wrong, or doing things in your job that you know to be wrong, or surrendering your own home to what you know to be misuse, or other things that are yet to come or that I cannot think of at the moment.

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  • esotericage3  |  March 22 2012, 12:39PM

    I'm just acknowledging people are gay so therefore they must be treated with equality. What about those who are Christians, do they get treated fairly by the powers that be. Or what about the elderly or the disabled?. The way the Government treats Christians, the elderly and disabled you would of thought that "equality" doesn't exist in this new world civil society.

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  • sandyshaw  |  March 22 2012, 11:41AM

    You still don't get it, I can't justify something if I have no cause or belief in order to bring it from unacceptable to acceptable. I don't care whether it's morally acceptable or not to be gay. I'm just acknowledging people are gay so therefore they must be treated with equality.

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  • esotericage3  |  March 22 2012, 11:06AM

    @sandyshaw I would never consider justifying homosexuality You could of fooled me.

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